Here’s what we know (as of 3:30 pm CST Thursday, Nov 5). We know that we don’t know who won the presidency. Anyone who says otherwise is someone who really doesn’t know.
The Biden camp is doing what I would be doing or you would be doing if either of us were in their position. They’re proclaiming that victory is at hand.
But the screeching from the Left notwithstanding, the Trump camp is doing what the Biden camp people would be doing if the shoe were on the other foot. The Trump campaign is pursuing a mathematically plausible argument that when legitimate and legal ballots are fully and finally counted, President Trump will emerge on top.
As the president himself would say, we’ll see what happens.
As we wait, let’s consider the rest of what we know. We know that the lefty media and the pollsters (but I repeat myself) blew it again. In many ways they blew it worse than four years ago and that didn’t seem possible. Regardless of who wins the election, this is the big, big story.
Go back and remember what they’ve been telling us these past weeks. They told us that Biden was going to run away with this election. We’d be able to go to bed early on election night, they said.
Disgust with Donald Trump and voter rejection of not just his policies, but Donald Trump the human being, was going to trigger a “blue wave” that would wash across the land. The coattail effect of the all-but-certain Biden landslide was going to result in Democratic Party gains everywhere. Democrats would regain control of the Senate and install Chuck Schumer as Majority Leader. Concurrently, Democrats were going to significantly widen their majority in the House of Representatives.
Texas, if it didn’t turn blue, would at a minimum start turning purple. For sure Democrats were going to flip the Texas House. That change of control would then give them the upper hand when the census gets released and Congressional district lines get redrawn.
Election Day 2020, we were told by the media, was going to be a big day for Democrats.
But aside from Biden as of now holding on to a slim lead on the Electoral College map – as “projected” by the media – not a bit of it happened. Zip. Zilch. None.
The Senate is still in Republican hands. When all is said and done, Republicans will pick up as many as 12 seats in the House (leaving Speaker Nancy Pelosi with a paper-thin majority and a very restless caucus).
And Texas is still every bit as red as it was.
Biden may yet wind up winning the presidency. But if he does, it will likely by a pyrrhic victory. The Democrats will have won the White House. But they didn’t win anything else.
Not exactly a wave.
It wasn’t supposed to be this way. The media told us – again and again. They were certain of it.
And they were wrong.
In almost any other industry a failure of this magnitude two times in a row would result in heads rolling. Starting in the executive suite and working down, people would be fired.
But it won’t happen. The media (and the pollsters), assuming they do anything, will do as they did in 2016 and put out statements along the lines of, “We have begun an in-depth examination of our (reporting) (methodology) to ascertain where we got it right and where we came up short in order to continue to provide the very best (coverage) (information) to our (viewers) (consumers) and blah, blah, blah.”
And then nothing will change. Nobody will get fired. Everyone will go back to doing what they were doing – still smugly believing that they’re good at it.
No one at ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, et.al. will ever consider that nobody in their organizations, from the executive suite to the overnight assignments editor, has even a rudimentary understanding of the 263 million people – those “deplorables” who live in “flyover country” between the Hudson River and the Sierra Nevada Mountains and who keep the country running.
No understanding at all.
I mostly agree Paul, but I think there is another aspect. The Leftist politicians, media, and pollsters deliberately inflated the Biden chances and hyped the Blue wave in an attempt to intimidate GOP voters. Many competitors in virtually all endeavors try to psyche-out the opposition. The problem here is not that the politicians tried it because after all, that is what they do. The real problem is the pollsters who knowingly and shamefully tainted their own profession, much like the mainstream media has done.
I would love to know how some newscaster ( likely with a “J” degree) is an expert on anything except how to read the news — yet they all seem to think they can read the tea leaves
Consumers don’t trust media because media told them not to.
Pick-a-channel, any channel. It’s telling you not to trust the other channel.
Divisive Trump didn’t cause this, he exploited it, masterfully, picking the scabs of grievance and resentment.
And wait’ll you see HIS channel:
You’ll gladly pay to subscribe, because he understands you.
Most of what you say is true. But let’s be clear.
Consumers don’t trust the media because the media — as embodied in the legacy networks — has in monolithic fashion, behaved in an untrustworthy way.
And now Trump damns even comfy Fox News! Is nothing sacred?
Apparently not. The Fox “Decision Desk” beclowned itself Tuesday night. Florida was obviously in the bag and they wouldn’t call it. Arizona was far from in the bag and they tripped over themselves to call it.
On Tuesday night, Fox calls, beginning with Virginia, were the most aggressive, but none of ‘em were wrong yet.
Fox News blew it. When they called Virginia that early someone of clout at Fox should have said, “Whoa Nellie, lets get a little farther down the count before we shout Ball Game.” To further erode my trust was keeping Arizona in the Biden column day in and day out when no other station had it go for Biden. Was that pure arrogance? Fox closed the bank account with me. Now there is no t.v. news I trust at all. Not that I gave Fox 100% credit, I did not; but they were closer to “reporting” the news than anyone else. That trust is of television news is gone.
You’re gonna love Trump TV.
It’ll be like that show the DeNiro character did in “Casino.”
(If not like the Seinfeld episode where Kramer found the Merv Griffin set.)
The integrity of the voting process of our Republic and the trust of “We The People” is a stake.
Here in Texas, when I voted in my county designated election location next to the county courthouse, you had to be a registered voter, show your photo ID, and be on the voter roll. In short, proof you are a U.S. citizen and proof that you are who you say you are.
Such is NOT the case in many of the democrat run states where votes are reportedly spontaneously being “found” for Biden alone and counted which have no verifiable signature, postmark, or even any verifiable proof if the voter is registered and in fact still living!!
The Trump team is correct. Why was voting halted in such states in the middle of the night where Trump was ahead and winning? Unprecedented! The American people DEMAND Federal relief by the DOJ and the Supreme Court to ORDER that election law be followed in the counting process by allowing observers. Again something that is not being done in key states.
If this hasn’t been done, then as Former Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Newt Gingrich said last night, ALL such votes in those precincts MUST be TOSSED OUT! and NOT counted.
Contact the U.S. Dept of Justice and let your voice be heard! 70 million TRUMP voters, of which I am one, will not stand for disenfranchisement and theft of the presidential election or any election by criminal conduct by individuals breaking Federal LAW in the counting and canvasing of LEGAL votes.
Hopefully you will be providing some hard evidence of this wrongdoing in your next post.
That is the purview of the United States Justice Department and U. S. Marshals.
It is difficult to obtain such hard evidence by every day citizens when such venues for counting ballots is WALLED OFF from Republican election observers. That alone is against Federal election law and is a Federal crime and such individuals engaged in this type of unlawfulness MUST be arrested and ALL such nefarious ballots disallowed.
The question was rhetorical. Even rona mcdaniel said she needed more “time” to produce the evidence. As far as poll observers, that lawsuit has already been dismissed. The judge asked the republican attorney how many republican party observers were in the room and the answer was … “A non zero number”. What a clown show.
Where’s Inspector Erskine when we need him?
Poll watchers were denied entry into polling places in Detroit, Philly, and Milwaukee. That is indisputable as the evidence of video suggest. THAT SIR, IS ILLEGAL AND AGAINST THE LAW OF THE LAND. I am sick and tired of the Lefties saying show me the proof. WELL LETS START WITH DENIAL OF POLL WATCHERS. I have a very simple question for you. What part of ILLEGAL is legal? Dare you answer that?
ANY Illegal issue in a voting precinct renders ALL those votes subject to recount and intense scrutiny; end of story.
Riddle me this Batman: How can President Trump be way ahead at 1:45 am on November 4th, 2020 and when I got up at 7:15 a.m.; AFTER THE POLLING SITES IN PHILLY AND ELSEWHERE SAID THEY WERE GOING TO STOP, and he is behind or the gap has closed significantly. Was that vote counting elves that miraculously appeared and counted for those who were supposed to be gone home to rest?????????????? Give me a break dude! I am tired of people on the left thinking I am stupid. Why do you think (if you can indeed think for yourself) the Dems allowed all those mail-in ballots, military, and provisional ballots (which I think are totally illegal) to be counted AFTER the walk up vote was taken? Ah lets see, we need how many votes to get ahead? Do you NOT think that is a bit convenient for all those Democratic sites to keep finding and counting found boxes of ballots???? I am calling BS, BS, BS on that. If that is not HARD enough for an investigation then this country is in some serious trouble and I for one, are not going to sit by and allow my kids and grandkids to devolve into Cuba or Venezuela.
Again, what part of Illegal is legal? Answer if you dare.
As I’ve already said, the lawsuit in pennsylvania has already been dismissed because the trump campaigned admitted that a non zero number of observers were allowed in the room. Also, rona mcdaniel has already said she needs more time to produce the evidence. Maybe she lost her copy? You really need to give her a call asap!
Both parties had representatives in polling precincts…even mine, the smallest town in the smallest state in the USA.
Video of “poll watchers” you refer to is of soreheads — some armed — who ALSO wanted-in, in many cases in-excess-of COVID capacity restrictions.
This was the most scrutinized Election Day ever.
With all due respect, the bull just went Number Two.
I wish I had taken more english classes like you liberal arts types. When you call bull-excrement, is it because you simply dislike his statement? Or is it because you know it to be untrue and have evidence to the contrary?
There is a distinction between evidence and valid suspicion. If, after months of hearing the neighbors fight through your kitchen window you notice that you haven’t seen the wife in six weeks and her car hasn’t moved, you possess no evidence of wrongdoing. Yet the stink of it hangs in the air and it’s probably worth looking into.
Understood. Plenty of rhetoric but absolutely no evidence. Not from you, the campaign, or anyone.
Here’s the hole in the “intimidate GOP voters” angle: Record turnout.
Obviously me opinion is subject to many, many objections; but, we all know or should know, those pre-voter turn-out polls were aimed at suppression of the Republican, Libertarian, and all new comers i.e. Kanye West votes. That has been and always will be a strategic tactic of those wishing to win. Doom and gloom, asteroids are hitting the earth, we are going the way of the dinosaurs if you vote for X, Y, or Z. BUT, this was NOT about intimidation Mr. Cooke. It was and still is about socialism and Marxism. AOC, the Squad, Lizzie Warren and her destroy all the ulta-rich and banks, good ole Bernie and his Antifa thugs, BLM (Marxist to the core; they care less about color of your skin), and a whole host of “Hate America First” groups. The middle Americans, hard working blue collar workers, and many college educated deplorables (me and my buds) can see past the smoke and bovine digested grass that is the cancer on the democratic party. Lets cut to the chase here: THIS IS ALL ABOUT CONTROL AND POWER.
Question is: Do Americans want a group of Marxist and so called “elite” narcissist’s telling them how to live their lives from cradle to grave? Do “We the PEOPLE (not sheeple) want the Constitution destroyed and changed to the Soviet Union or maybe the People’s Republic of China to dictate our lives!!!!!! WE GET THIS.
That Sir is why so many voted for President Trump. And Yes Sir, it was a record turnout to embody Freedom, Liberty, and our way of life. Do YOU want something else? If so, be honest and tell us now Rhode Island Red.
I’ll punt that to the President-Elect, who addresses the nation and the world at 7P CT.
“Perfect Storm”! China getting their backside handed to them by Trump in trade negotiations, and a shrinking economy led to a desperate release of the viral pandemic. The China plague gave justification for indiscriminate release of mail-in ballots. Dems took advantage of the associated chaos and invitation for fraud by 3 to 1 over Repubs. Combine this with the willingness of this once great party to cheat, steal, and lie to gain power, and it is no surprise that our electoral process is more representative of a banana republic than a constitutional republic. I only hope that all of the cheerleaders of this debacle will experience the same disdain from their children and grandchildren as the ancestors of those who are now chasing garbage trucks in Venezuela.
Here is the “real” rub that no President Trump supporter or any supporter of Equal Justice should ever forget about this election. Since the day Donald J. Trump (simply a U.S. citizen wishing to run for office) stepped off the escalator in Trump Tower, the DNC had plans in place to spy on this guy. Escalate this to Presidential candidate Donald Trump and this went to the FBI, CIA, NSA, and who knows where else in The Swamp. Next came the DNC paid for Steele Dossier, fraudulent FISA warrants on Trump and associates, FBI banter on “No way Trump gets elected, we will make sure of that, etc.” FBI Director James Comey’s lies, fraud, and deceit (a.k.a. FISA warrants) to continue the farce on Trump. This gets so convoluted, for a reason, the average person gets a migraine from attempting to understand it. All this subterfuge to get to “The Phone Call” with the Ukrainian President. OMG, the DNC, Democratic underground, Democrats in Congress are shaking like a Cocker Spaniel who is ready to play fetch with treats for every ball or stick it lays at it’s master’s feet. Then Adam Schiff and Jerry “The Penguin” Nadler is unleashed on Trump and Congress and here we go Impeachment. Or was it after we, the taxpayers were screwed out of over $64 million dollars for the inept Mueller Report which proved we pooped off $64 million dollars. As I said, this is so convoluted one has to be a lawyer, statistician, bean counter, or political nerd to follow this trail of corruption. Then Pelosi and the majority of Democrats in Congress voted to Impeach the President at the same time the Chinese Virus was gaining ground in the USA. Now, lets NOT forget the media’s role in this corruption and fraud. This article is all about their bad, impatient judgement. The media (Fox included) is complicit in this farce and fraud. Basically EVERYONE in the media; excluding talk radio and certain segments of Fox t.v., are all in, for removal of President Trump NOW!!!! But, all this Russian collusion, impeachment, treasonous behavior of the President is false. Comey proven a liar, Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler proven liars and lying to Congress under oath(hello perjury!). The DNC and Hillary Clinton (Yeah, her) liars and fraudulent players in this coup attempt to remove a sitting President elected by 63 million Americans. That my friends is Treason with a capital T.; High crimes and misdemeanors as laid out in the Constitution. Other members of the FBI, CIA, and Obama Administration members, including Joe Biden, ALL knowledgeable and complicit in all this espionage, organized crime, and treason. Of course President Trump was proven innocent and as we watched over the next months, he was innocent with all those named about guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt; but what happened? Where was the swift justice; the equal justice under the law, you and I would be afforded if we were involved in this mix? No where. Attorney General Barr has done what? Nothing. His surrogates have done what to bring equal justice? Nothing.
And then comes the Ukrainian Watergate. Video of Joe Biden telling the Ukrainian Government to fire a Government investigator or they get nothing of a billion dollars. Well SOB, the do it. If I was Mr. Rogers, I would say, “O.K. can you say Quid Pro Quo?” EXACTLY WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS ACCUSED OF, AND BROUGHT UP ON IMPEACHMENT CHARGES BEFORE CONGRESS. But we do nothing to investigate that. Why? Then we get Hunter Biden and all his corruption with the Ukraine and China; ah China. A verifiable laptop with loads of information, witnesses who brokered the deals with Uncle Joe and Hunter, and an FBI that sits idly by and does nothing. Never mind the Biden’s have profited billions from China. Made in China, that is the label of our next President.
Before the America Haters on this blog say, “Show me the proof”. It is already out there. So YOU prove me wrong. Dare we go back to VP Biden’s days of Fast and Furious, Benghazi, etc.??????? I do not think you want to touch that subject.
So here is the Sin of Sin’s. We, the Trump Supporters, are asked why we do not trust this election or the results? Laughing in one’s face would be appropriate; did you NOT read the above? Least we forget Google, Facebook, and Twitter executives ALL pledging that they would “Pool their resources to STOP the election of Donald Trump!” That is a fact Jack!@!
Are the mail-in ballots in Nevada, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Philly corrupt and invalid; dang right they are. Any idiot who thinks about all the information I just gave you can reason this election was rigged from the get go; period, end of story. Vast money resources of power ALL pledged to defeat Donald J. Trump and they did. By any means necessary; that means hook and crook for all you in La-La Land. Equal Justice under the law? Not in this country; anymore.
George W. Bush: “The American people can have confidence that this election was fundamentally fair, its integrity will be upheld, and its outcome is clear.”
Joseph Stalin: “The people who cast the votes don’t decide an election, the people who count the votes do.”
On Friday, Rush Limbaugh was asking gullible listeners to believe that Biden win WHILE down-ballot Republicans did well was because only-the-top-of ballots was altered.
What special insight does George W. Bush possess? Has he had access to the GOP’s oversight of election and counting locations? I haven’t heard that. Where have you heard it?
Though he bears the honorific, “Mr. President,” he is nonetheless a private citizen who, not coincidentally, isn’t a fan of the incumbent.
If the counting processes in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, et. al. were as clean as a whistle and sharper than shears, the Dems should have no problem with the GOP wanting to take a hard look at them.
So is that true for every election? Or is it simply for the elections with outcomes you disagree with?
It is only true for elections in which millions of votes have been cast in a way that they have never been cast before. It’s true for an election for which the oversight and audit functions for that new method were incomplete prior to its implementation. That means, unavoidably, that there can be considerable suspicion of wrongdoing and no way to adequately investigate and allay such suspicion.
So, Holland, you are now quoting Dubya? Sadly, our former president has revealed his true political perspective for anyone who wishes to notice. His disastrous foreign and domestic policies handed the presidency on a silver platter to the community organizer from Chicago. He also refused to open his mouth, when day after day Obama attacked and blamed his administration for all of America’s woes. He finally broke his code of silence (which he said was out of respect for the office of the president), when he saw an opportunity to criticize his own party’s president. He is the hypocrite of the first order, especially when you consider that his election required over a month of legal challenges, and was decided by the supreme court. I wonder how your new buddy would have felt if the leader of the Republican party made a similar statement while he was chasing every legal avenue to keep the Dems from stealing the election in 2000?
Paul: Do you still regard President Bush as a friend?
Yes. But I have been greatly disappointed by him of late.
So President Trump received 52.2% of the vote in Texas. If that doesn’t classify it as purple, what threshold does in your opinion?
Paul: At which precinct were Democrat and Republican officials not monitoring?
Your focus on precincts is either disingenuous or ill-informed. The shenanigans, if there were any, took place at the counting locations. The counting locations at which the most suspicious activity took place just happen to all be in counties that are overwhelmingly Democratic. In the case of the counting location in Philadelphia, the count took place in a location that has a long and rich history of corruption.
OK…Which “counting location” do you know to have been unmonitored?
Wasn’t Philadelphia live video-streamed?
You CANNOT be serious with that question. The only way to monitor the counting of ballots is to be PHYSICALLY CLOSE to the ballots as they are being counted. The complaint that went up from GOP election monitors in Philly on election night was that they were kept 50 or 60 feet away from the actual counting. Thus they were TECHNICALLY “allowed in the room.” But they couldn’t see anything.
Admittedly, the detail is never as dramatic as the contradictory bumper sticker, but here-ya-have-it anyway:
And for those here punishing Fox News for reporting the data, consider fleeing to the most “Republican” of all cable news channels, CNBC.
As the market opened (and is sustaining +1000) this morning, Wall Streeters interviewed explained that the market has priced-in — their words — a Biden/McConnell relationship akin to Tip & The Gipper.
One more time … The trump campaign attorney has already admitted in court that observers were allowed in the room in philadelphia. This is getting ridiculous. If you have evidence that they weren’t allowed in the room, produce it!
Dude are YOU not listening? Although they were in the room; they were NOT allowed to be close enough to observe the counting or whatever function they were there for. Do you think YOU could see what is actually happening from 30 to 60 feet away from a table that is already crowded with paper, gadgets, and other people counting? NO WAY! That is the issue! Got it?
“Poll watchers were denied entry into polling places in Detroit, Philly, and Milwaukee”. Those were you’re words.
Michal G. Biv and the Rhode Island chicken are parts of the ignorant supporters for this very well designed plot. As Reagan and Gleiser have so accurately described, there is no way that the cabal of social and news media, the Democrat party, the deep state bureaucrats (including the Justice Department), and the “never Trumpers” would ever allow President Trump to be re-elected. Do not hold your breath waiting for the next private citizen to run this gauntlet again; it is just not worth the grief! This was the secondary part of the plan; teach a lesson to anyone who would dare attempt to drain the swamp and help ordinary Americans. Just take a look at some of those who are jubilant over the possibility of a Biden administration; the Chinese, amnesty aspirants, and those preparing caravans for the trip North. I am sincerely confident that the cheerleaders in this treasonous venture will have their next few generations spitting on their graves.
RE “If, after months of hearing the neighbors fight through your kitchen window you notice that you haven’t seen the wife in six weeks and her car hasn’t moved, you possess no evidence of wrongdoing. Yet the stink of it hangs in the air and it’s probably worth looking into.”
Has anyone seen Buddy Saunders?
After (not-quite) offering 10-1 odds on last week’s page, his absence here is conspicuous…
Bad form Red. I was out for weeks too. In the hospital and home recovering. Sometimes life happens and this forum is not the priority.
Evidence The Trump Culture (or lack thereof) is passing: “Bad form” is bad again?
O.K. wizard of smart, riddle me this: Please, please make the case for not requiring positive identification as a requirement for casting a ballot. It is absurd and very patronizing to claim that anyone in this country does not have the intelligence nor opportunity to obtain such a common means of identification. Oh how uncaring of me…..this is probably a sincere expression of Dems’ compassion, and nothing to do with voter fraud!
We need to ID in RI.
Opponents’ rationale seems to be more about the consequence — rather than intent — of exclusion, though that Pennsylvania pol who came-right-out-and admitted otherwise several years ago reminds us that hate dies hard.
Hey chicken…..hold the crowing! The fat lady has not even started gargling!
STILL sulking over 2020?
That’s SO last-year.
I am surprised that my Rhode Island buddy responded to “Hey chicken”. Roosters crow.
SINCE you asked, a rooster is…a chicken (Gallus gallus domesticus).
Up-above — where we apparently exhausted Reply tabs — I asked Paul: “Do you still regard President Bush as a friend?”
His reply: “Yes. But I have been greatly disappointed by him of late.”
While I’m not QUITE ready to call it a breakthrough, I am encouraged by the notion that friends can disagree agreeably.
“Let’s give each other a chance,” the President-Elect asks.
OR, as that song Sean Hannity plays at the beginning of each hour beckons: “If you want a little bang in your ying-yang, come along.”